tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post1942373842025835206..comments2024-01-22T08:27:40.801-08:00Comments on project mayhem: seeking forgivenessthe narratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10774503436545764912noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-17422307989393582182008-11-14T18:25:00.000-08:002008-11-14T18:25:00.000-08:00People do not "follow the prophet" because they ch...People do not "follow the prophet" because they choose to follow the teachings of Christ when it contradicts what a man has said. When a man contradicts Christ's gospel, makes ya wonder about the "man". <BR/><BR/>The "still small voice" is a piece of this universe that will prompt you into action, not necessarily one that agrees with what a Mormon would do. FYI: Mormons don't own Christ, His gospel or the Holy Ghost. Can't wait til the end of time when everyone gets to see that. =)<BR/><BR/>(I'm born and raised in the church, a RM and sealed in the Temple and proud parent of four kids. I voted NO on Prop 102 in AZ. If that makes one an apostate, make me a name tag.)DeluxeDesignshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518176471576858326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-41066682824695688302008-11-09T16:42:00.000-08:002008-11-09T16:42:00.000-08:00This is a wonderful, wonderful story. I came by y...This is a wonderful, wonderful story. I came by your blog via Lisa (of The Liberal Mormon That Could). I was moved to chills reading your story. Thank you for doing what you did. I hope your professor was okay with you missing class.Amandahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07026099426503180472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-8739436362523689752008-11-09T15:14:00.000-08:002008-11-09T15:14:00.000-08:00Apostates are against 8.-NOYDMBApostates are against 8.<BR/>-NOYDMBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-40290862307041333832008-11-09T05:57:00.000-08:002008-11-09T05:57:00.000-08:00So glad you did this! When you say, "i am complete...So glad you did this! When you say, "i am completely serious when i say that this was a deeply spiritual experience for me" I know what you mean. It was a genuinely spiritual thing you did.<BR/><BR/>To Tom, who asks about the "still small voice" that speaks to so many people. I think people sometimes claim the "still small voice" of God is inspiring them when in fact it is not God but the residual voices of some other authority figure, or their own fears, or their own lack of understanding. To know if the "still small voice" is truly from God, you need to first be still and silent in response. You have to let your heart and your soul determine if what you are hearing truly and most genuinely supports God's will that we love Him as He has loved us and that we love each other with active compassion. God's will has been made complex by individuals and religion throughout time. But His will is not complex. We are to love, support, and care for each other, and we are to love God. Working to suppress someone else's civil and human rights is not God's will. He created us, gay and straight, and is ready for us to tackle the genuinely troublesome issues of life (poverty, hatred, cruelty, etc.) rather than waste our time trying to "correct" something that does not need correction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-45924330433446982572008-11-08T22:58:00.000-08:002008-11-08T22:58:00.000-08:00My heart feels better reading this. Thank you so ...My heart feels better reading this. Thank you so much for what you did. I've left you a comment on facebook, but I wanted to say thank you again.<BR/><BR/>Bright Blessings to you.Michael The Shadowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07268563414339842464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-67993854004074879952008-11-08T16:12:00.000-08:002008-11-08T16:12:00.000-08:00You have tremendous character. I thank you from t...You have tremendous character. I thank you from the bottom of my heart! Tears welled up in my eyes reading this... THANK YOU!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-19037304440701787472008-11-08T15:30:00.000-08:002008-11-08T15:30:00.000-08:00It is interesting that active lds people are outri...It is interesting that active lds people are outrightly saying the leadership of the church is wrong. It reminds me of the early church when people fell away (whether sooner or later) because they didn't agree with Joseph Smith on his decisions...and I am not speaking of his personal/professional/everyday decisions... I am talking about those decisions that he made acting as the prophet. Following the prophet is a key role that we take on when we choose to enter into the gospel fold. When the Prophet speaks...which several have on this issue perhapes most noted in the proclamation of the family...we should listen becuase he is the mouthpiece of God. We are apart of the last days are the adversary is working double time to divide and conquer the saints.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-62473713742177838132008-11-07T17:56:00.000-08:002008-11-07T17:56:00.000-08:00I am Mormon and have been since I was about 7. Bap...I am Mormon and have been since I was about 7. Baptized. Family went through the temple. Taught to love others and be Christlike. It hurts my heart to see rights withheld from LGBT folks. I am married to the person I love more than anyone else in this world, and I literally almost cry when I think that anyone would be prevented from having the same right. We simply cannot tolerate this. I believe in the Church, but I can't support an ammendment that would withhold the same happiness from others that I have been so blessed to have. No to proposition 8! At the same time, having been an ardent gay rights activist, I am also disappointed by the hypocritical hate directed singly at the LDS Church. The hate, discrimination, and persecution needs to stop on all sides.Ashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02321561283923884373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-24841117872116220922008-11-06T23:53:00.000-08:002008-11-06T23:53:00.000-08:00Thanks Loyd. The world needs more of this---more t...Thanks Loyd. The world needs more of this---more thoughtfulness, more compassion, more trying to understand those who are different than us.Joe Vogelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13221086768924339576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-80770333157684148422008-11-06T23:13:00.000-08:002008-11-06T23:13:00.000-08:00That was lovely. Thank you.That was lovely. <BR/><BR/>Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-73853023261309163252008-11-06T18:32:00.000-08:002008-11-06T18:32:00.000-08:00Thank you Angela....my thoughts exactly. Loyd, th...Thank you Angela....my thoughts exactly. <BR/><BR/>Loyd, thanks for the post. It's an improvement from all the other ones. I like hearing about your personal experiences so much more than the other stuff.lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14896939060612087353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-21023965946086115092008-11-06T17:33:00.000-08:002008-11-06T17:33:00.000-08:00Thank you very much for your hours in the rain and...Thank you very much for your hours in the rain and the cold. Even if all the voters were already decided, I'm sure that every gay person who saw you out in the cold had a renewed sense of hope. I myself feel more hopeful for the future having read your story. To know that you did what you felt was right and stood out in the cold to protect the rights of people so very different from you makes me feel extremely relieved after all the sudden sadness that has taken it's toll since prop 8 passed. As a gay woman I just want to say "thanks. i am one of those who hopes to get married soon." Someday I hope to be able to get married and have a family. My parents took their names off of the mormon church when I was very young, but I still grew up surrounded by mormons. I attended church every week. I read my scriptures. I fasted. In my heart I was lds. I even considered rejoining the church. But there was another part of myself that kept me from joining long before I knew what it was. The fact that I'm gay was very hard for me to deal with at first because my heart was set on joining the church but also 100% gay. Ever since that battle I had with myself over the church and being gay. I've always felt like I was missing something. Especially since I have become more and more distant from the church because of the on going debates about homosexuality. My brother has rejoined the church, and the issue of me being gay has developed a huge gap between us, because it is hard for him to accept my beliefs as true for me because they go against his beliefs. I want you to understand how much your story really has done for me. It has not only given me hope that I will someday be able to marry, but that also my brother and I may be able to set aside our differences. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-58704460227804489252008-11-06T06:14:00.000-08:002008-11-06T06:14:00.000-08:00i think the spirit prompts us to do things for a m...i think the spirit prompts us to do things for a multitude of different reasons. i like to think that Loyd needed to stand out there just to learn to repect other peopleĀ“s beliefs and opinions when they differ from his own. ;)<BR/><BR/>and maybe to show all of us that we can believe different things and still love each other.Angelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12928267911597159927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-70315511396669481042008-11-05T19:09:00.000-08:002008-11-05T19:09:00.000-08:00I initially read this post while at work, and it b...I initially read this post while at work, and it brought tears to my eyes. Thank you Loyd, for ALWAYS standing up for what you believe in. You are very inspiring. <BR/><BR/>-AimeeAimeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16529266782166036573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-89210587656793934642008-11-05T14:46:00.000-08:002008-11-05T14:46:00.000-08:00So commendable Loyd. I appreciate this.So commendable Loyd. I appreciate this.Jack W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08145238245760290309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-13236309748393209852008-11-05T14:03:00.000-08:002008-11-05T14:03:00.000-08:00Saw the link to this post from Errin's facebook. V...Saw the link to this post from Errin's facebook. Very moving words. It's good to know that there are at least a few religious people out there who are not engaged in spreading hate to the lives of their family members, friends, neighbors, and complete strangers across the nation. I wish that guy luck too, and hopefully the fight will end in time for him to make that special commitment to the one he loves.Valerie Griswoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437793021138891677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-52850044579939567202008-11-05T13:12:00.000-08:002008-11-05T13:12:00.000-08:00Tom, what bobby said. I can't speak for anyone els...Tom, what bobby said. I can't speak for anyone else. i can only speak for myself. i just don't know.the narratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774503436545764912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-49494291300419487072008-11-05T13:10:00.000-08:002008-11-05T13:10:00.000-08:00Loyd, i know i probably don't tell you this as muc...Loyd, i know i probably don't tell you this as much, but so much of what you do and say, is a huge example to me. Your a great older brother. <BR/><BR/>And just to comment on Tom Moore's comment, I would personally have to say that the "Still Small Voice" is always going to be very personal to you. Whatever it may be, God has individual ideas and goals for us and as long as these actions lead us to the ultimate goal in the end, then it is good.Bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11938451329861012026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-1582016008389041082008-11-05T12:30:00.000-08:002008-11-05T12:30:00.000-08:00Loyd,Thank you for sharing this experience. It was...Loyd,<BR/>Thank you for sharing this experience. It was a beautiful story. I think this whole election season, but with this topic specifically, has brought out the best and worst in people I know and love. Thank you for putting yourself out there. Thank you for be willing to bear the attacks of people who doubt the validity of your beliefs, who question your devotion to your faith. Thank you for struggling with those whose lives and families are being torn apart by something that could have been stopped. Thank you for continuing to write and think and battle for the just causes in our world. <BR/>Love,<BR/>ErrinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-60647646181091571942008-11-05T12:29:00.000-08:002008-11-05T12:29:00.000-08:00Thanks for this bit of inspiration. I'm going to ...Thanks for this bit of inspiration. I'm going to try to follow your example in the coming fight.JohnRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822899155130408891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-66109032449782921672008-11-05T12:17:00.000-08:002008-11-05T12:17:00.000-08:00I'm fascinated by your suggestion that you listene...I'm fascinated by your suggestion that you listened to the "Still Small Voice" and I'm honestly curious about your thoughts concerning those who fought for Prop 8 to pass. If they also claim they have listened to the "Still Small Voice," do you believe they are wrong and deceived, or do you believe God doesn't really care, so he inspired you and the other side? I'd appreciate your thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-32900531172703796282008-11-05T11:23:00.000-08:002008-11-05T11:23:00.000-08:00Thank you for doing this.Thank you for doing this.Steve M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06261411264695719660noreply@blogger.com