tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post6175985159277125245..comments2024-01-22T08:27:40.801-08:00Comments on project mayhem: My Church Talk - Recognizing and Returning the Grace That Brings About the Mighty Change of Heartthe narratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10774503436545764912noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-86702250999021846902012-10-08T11:05:41.146-07:002012-10-08T11:05:41.146-07:00Thanks Walker!Thanks Walker!the narratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10774503436545764912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-90052854006983352332012-10-06T04:09:23.092-07:002012-10-06T04:09:23.092-07:00It has been a while since I've checked out you...It has been a while since I've checked out your blog. This was absolutely fantastic. I am deeply moved by the Christian theme of 'Les Miserables'. I've literally wept (like a boss) listening to the lyrics of the musical adaptation. 'Grace' in ancient times carried the concept of reciprocity:<br /><br />"Grace thus has very specific meaning for authors and readers of the New Testament, meanings derived primarily from the use of the word in the context of the giving of benefits and the requiting of favors...[This] suggests implicitly what many moralists from the Greek and Roman cultures stated explicitly: Grace must be met with grace; favor must always give birth to favor; gift must always be met with gratitude. An image that captured this for the ancients was the picture of three goddesses, the three “Graces,” dancing hand in hand in a circle…From [many] ancient witnesses, we learn that there is no such thing as an isolated act of grace…Only a gift requited is a gift well and nobly received. To fail to return favor for favor is, in effect, to break off the dance and destroy the beauty of the gracious act." (David A. DeSilva, 'Honor, Patronage, Kinship & Purity: Unlocking New Testament Culture'. Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press, 2000, 105-106)<br /><br />Walker Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06648863351382695638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-24973410238429421022010-03-04T20:39:53.932-08:002010-03-04T20:39:53.932-08:00Thank you for this post - Your analogy to the &quo...Thank you for this post - Your analogy to the "Lysol grace" that we so often refer to was so accurate it hurts, and you're right on with the reasons behind that. I hope that as a church we can learn to embrace grace, and stop shunning it as an ignorant Evangelical belief. Instead of seeing it as a concept that separates our church from other Christians, I hope it becomes something that unifies it. The Book of Mormon is replete with it, this gift from God to the undeserving.<br /><br />FieldsFieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15429679632253141321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6063106.post-14261735347815781122010-03-02T14:16:06.800-08:002010-03-02T14:16:06.800-08:00Did you start singing, Les Miserable? Well done.
...Did you start singing, Les Miserable? Well done.<br /><br />In regards to not only this talk, but your comments about BRM and Eugene E, I think it's always interesting when people think they KNOW.<br /><br />Just read an interesting book (novel) about one of B. Young's wives that divorced him. How much was fiction? It was certainly well researched. Archives are now being opened to scholars and researchers that have long been closed. Perhaps leaders actually believe that members/people can see past historical context.<br /><br />My point: prophets can be wrong. They are human. B. Young and other leaders did some crazy polygamy kinds of things among other stuff.<br /><br />Insert grace here.<br /><br />carry on.<br />katyKatyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10005745378829802083noreply@blogger.com